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		<title>Seeking DVR &amp; cable-spliter recommendations&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joel 'Jaykul' Bennett</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Digital Cable]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been looking at building myself a mega-media-center PC. Maybe a Linux MythTV, or Windows Vista MCE, or whatever, I haven&#8217;t really decided yet. Right now we have 3 or 4 VCRs hooked up in various rooms, and my wife tends to use a couple of them to record shows each night while we watch [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve been looking at building myself a mega-media-center PC. Maybe a Linux <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/" title="MythTV" rel="homepage" class="zem_slink">MythTV</a>, or Windows Vista <span class="caps">MCE</span>, or whatever, I haven&#8217;t really decided yet. Right now we have 3 or 4 VCRs hooked up in various rooms, and my wife tends to use a couple of them to record shows each night while we watch shows from the day before in the living room&#8230; it&#8217;s getting old.  We&#8217;re constantly having problems with VCRs dying, tapes that won&#8217;t stop flipping, and so-on. So I&#8217;ve decided it&#8217;s time to go to digital recorders, but I have lots of questions.</p>

	<p><iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=huddledmasses-20&amp;o=1&amp;p=8&amp;l=as1&amp;asins=B000ER5G58&amp;md=10FE9736YVPPT7A0FBG2&amp;fc1=000000&amp;IS2=1&amp;lt1=_blank&amp;m=amazon&amp;lc1=00A0F3&amp;bc1=FFFFFF&amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;f=ifr" style="width: 120px; height: 80px; float: right;margin: 5px;" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe> <span class="em1">If I bought a pair of dual-tuner TiVo boxes, they could share stuff recorded between them, but then I&#8217;m tied into a subscription?</span> How much would that cost? I looked at <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HXGIHE?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=huddledmasses-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B000HXGIHE">Neuros OSD</a> boxes earlier but they only have a single tuner each, so that&#8217;s a little overpriced compared to that TiVo, but it might be good for &#8220;the other rooms&#8221; if I decide to build a full PC <span class="caps">DVR</span>.</p>

	<p>We actually have cable (digital cable, even), which is piped into all these different rooms in our house &#8230; and we actively watch it in at least two of those rooms (even when we don&#8217;t have guests).  We also record a lot of shows &#8212;sometimes three at once&#8212; so I can&#8217;t just upgrade our Time Warner cable to include a <acronym title="Digital Video Recorder">DVR</acronym> subscription. I&#8217;m thinking about building a digital video recording computer (DVRc) with multiple tuners.</p>

	<p><iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=huddledmasses-20&amp;o=1&amp;p=8&amp;l=as1&amp;asins=B000WDR94U&amp;md=10FE9736YVPPT7A0FBG2&amp;fc1=000000&amp;IS2=1&amp;lt1=_blank&amp;m=amazon&amp;lc1=00A0F3&amp;bc1=FFFFFF&amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;f=ifr&amp;nou=1" style="width: 120px; height: 150px; float: right; margin: 5px; padding: 2px; border:1px solid;" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe> The first problem is all the splitters. The signal in our house right now goes through two splitters before it gets to my digital set-top box (<span class="caps">STB</span>) in the living room (one to shunt a signal to the rest of the house, and one for the cable modem). Because we have a <span class="caps">VCR</span> in there which is <strong>sometimes</strong> used to record, we have the <span class="caps">STB</span> hooked up through the <span class="caps">VCR</span> which means that I loose the bi-directional features like &#8220;On Demand&#8221; and &#8220;Start Over.&#8221;  To hook up a new multi-tuner <span class="caps">DVR</span>, I&#8217;ll have to add yet another (4-way) splitter! So obviously this is a problem.  I think I need a boosted cable splitter (like the one on the right here) to be able to get a strong enough signal, but I don&#8217;t know, and I&#8217;m reluctant to spend this much money without being sure it will work.  I need the bi-directional cable box to work, and I need the cable modem to still work. Do I need to split them off separately, and then amp the rest? Or will this thing from Amazon let them work through the splitter?</p>

	<p><iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=huddledmasses-20&#038;o=1&#038;p=8&#038;l=as1&#038;asins=B000F7TAOA&#038;md=10FE9736YVPPT7A0FBG2&#038;fc1=000000&#038;IS2=1&#038;lt1=_blank&#038;m=amazon&#038;lc1=00A0F3&#038;bc1=FFFFFF&#038;bg1=FFFFFF&#038;f=ifr&#038;npa=1" style="width:120px;height:180px; float:right;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"></iframe><br />
Lets assume I build a <span class="caps">DVR</span> PC, and I need to play video off the <span class="caps">DVR</span> computer to TVs in other rooms.  I either need the TiVO or Neuros <span class="caps">OSD</span> that I mentioned earlier, or I need a Modulator like the one in the side bar (there are <a href="http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/JVI/JVI%2040-SC3A.htm">much cheaper versions that just merge one input to Channel 3 or 4</a>) or, perhaps a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000N7DY44?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=huddledmasses-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B000N7DY44">diplexer</a> would work. Really, the modulator seems like the perfect trick though. And would let me add more features later. There&#8217;s a huge price difference though &#8230; I need to make sure I&#8217;m not wasting my money  <img src='http://huddledmasses.org/wordpress/wp-includes/' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

	<p>But I also have some questions about tuners.  Hauppauge makes some awesome tuners, including the <a href="http://www.provantage.com/hauppauge-1213~7HAUP13L.htm">WINTV-HVR-2250</a> dual-tuner (for $108) But I can get a single-tuner <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815260020">Hardware KWorld TV Tuner</a> for about $32 shipped, or a software one for about $20, so I&#8217;m trying to decide if it&#8217;s worth the extra to upgrade to PCIe, to get two tuners on a single card (which might let me build a &#8220;Mini&#8221; system instead of a full <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX" title="ATX" rel="wikipedia" class="zem_slink">ATX</a> box). I don&#8217;t know if the digital tuner is worth the extra cash (will our <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_cable" title="Digital cable" rel="wikipedia" class="zem_slink">Digital Cable</a> from Time Warner have enough unencrypted <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrature_amplitude_modulation" title="Quadrature amplitude modulation" rel="wikipedia" class="zem_slink">QAM</a> channels to make it worth it?</p>

	<p><strong>Sigh</strong>. So many choices to make.  And now my server&#8217;s main HD is dead, so I don&#8217;t have the free spare hardware I thought I had to build this system with. Maybe I&#8217;ll just wait for Black Friday and see what I can get on sale&#8230;</p>

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