Comments on: Redesign … by Artisteer

By: Joel 'Jaykul' Bennett

Joel 'Jaykul' Bennett — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:08:24 +0000

I’ve never heard of CSS aggregation being enough of a change to cause IE6 to freeze up … but I do know that it was particularly vulnerable to dumb crashes caused by CSS, even without JavaScript so it’s disappointing that they would try to get out of fixing it just because the aggregation was on. Is that a core Drupal feature, or an extension/plugin?

Gotta say tho, I’ll bet nowhere near 20% of your visitors are on IE6, around here they’re like 6 or 7%

PS: For everyone else: if you are one of the people reading this in IE6, please, for the love of the web, GO get a better browser right now!

By: pachydermus

pachydermus — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:11:47 +0000

We bought a license and tried it out. The theme breaks in IE6. It breaks to the extent that it freezes the browser and nothing works. PNGFix did not help either. Paul Hudson over at Artisteer has been less than eager to help, and belligerently points out that Drupal sucks for implementing the CSS and JS aggregation feature under ‘Performance’. Rather than treat us like a proper paying customer, he’s suggesting I prove to him that Artisteer themes are obliged to work with these performance features switched on. He thinks Drupal should fix the issue.

Bottomline is this: If you use modules such as ubercart that push the number of CSS over IE’s limit, you need to have CSS aggregation turned on, and this means Artisteer will cause 20% of the world’s browsers to freeze. Support at Artisteer will spend their time trying to prove you and Drupal wrong rather than fix the issue or treat you with any respect.

By: Joel 'Jaykul' Bennett

Joel 'Jaykul' Bennett — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:40:37 +0000

Yeah, I haven’t tried the Drupal export, but if it works as well as the WordPress export, you’ll be very pleased … and I did see a review from someone else who was using it for Joomla and was as impressed as I was, so I expect it’s equally good across the board.

Incidentally: lets not start a flame war in my comments, ok? Speaking as an open source developer, I don’t think bubblegum fairies make the world go ‘round and I doubt anyone else does (although sometimes I wonder about Richard Stallman). I promise that if anyone was thinking about complaining, I won’t think you’re a “freetard” ...

By: rpr

rpr — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:48:14 +0000

Thanks Joel, for the review. I was looking at this from a Drupal angle, so reading the opinion of someone who’s used it is always helpful.

@Josh Eistein, “..freetards..”? Now I’m thinking Drupal, Joomla, Wordpress, PHP, MySQL, Apache… Freetard web technologies? Everyone needs to make money, but…

This is not America (USA)!

By: Josh Einstein

Josh Einstein — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:50:21 +0000

The freetards that think bubblegum fairies make the world go around (as opposed to money) might complain but I see no problem with it. Truth is though you probably won’t make enough to justify it off just a blog post.

But being a developer that used to sell software to pay my bills, I think it’s great that you would post about some software that you like and are obviously using yourself. So what if that gets you a little bit of extra money. This is America.